tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6962940693663816302.post453527262061220861..comments2023-07-06T06:39:07.438-07:00Comments on Cindi and Mary Beth's Holistic Enneagram Agency: "It's a Lie": 3-ish Themes in an episode of BuffyMary Bethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13373388995833775695noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6962940693663816302.post-49069616776670523232007-12-21T13:35:00.000-08:002007-12-21T13:35:00.000-08:00Buffy's a real mixed bag (the show not the charact...Buffy's a real mixed bag (the show not the character.) I've gotten into it by now, but part of what I like is just the regularity of watching every Monday with the group. It starts slow... Season 3 is way better than Seasons 1 and 2; Season 4 is way better than 3. Supposedly, 6 is the best, then 5, and they are what all this watching is building towards. There are those who say Season 3 is second only to Season 6, and already I say 4 is better than 3. In 4 they go to college ... is that a spoiler? I don't think so... and while they are sometimes still as emotional as they were in 3, I feel less like they're overreacting, because I found college anxiety-provoking myself. Cindi and I have noticed that Buffy is a show in which a problem occurs, the group tries to solve it, but instead of being about logically solving problems, it's about emotions, and the problem-solving takes a backseat, sometimes even to the point that the viewer doesn't understand what the "rules" (i.e. for dealing with a particular monster or supernatural situation) are or how the group figured out the solution. In other words, the show can be confusing... often things are not well explained, and just... continuity is sort of problematic. <BR/><BR/>There are people whose opinions I respect who think it's the BEST show that's ever aired. What I'm saying is that I am not one of them, but I do like it better than not.<BR/><BR/>It is my understanding that there is a sale somewhere where you can get the entire pack of 7 seasons for 90 dollars.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, your kids aren't old enough to watch it with you yet. The first season maybe, but mature themes emerge once they get into later high school and college, as you might imagine.Mary Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373388995833775695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6962940693663816302.post-39892128920491062662007-12-21T09:05:00.000-08:002007-12-21T09:05:00.000-08:00Great post with interesting insights on 3s. Like M...Great post with interesting insights on 3s. Like Mary Beth I have seen the scary side of the 3 personality. I've heard people praise BTVS before, but it aired at a time in my life when I had very little free time to sit in front of a TV. Then later, I didn't want to start in the middle. Now I realize I should get the DVDs!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6962940693663816302.post-74347566267014150592007-12-20T14:02:00.000-08:002007-12-20T14:02:00.000-08:00Another observation about the "Superstar" episode:...Another observation about the "Superstar" episode: I've observed the slipping of the veil and the dark side of the 3 coming out in real life, more than once. It is amazingly similar to going from paragon Jonathan to the monster.Mary Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373388995833775695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6962940693663816302.post-44293236470203002962007-12-20T13:39:00.000-08:002007-12-20T13:39:00.000-08:00Yeah; although he does sort of tell a lie -- about...Yeah; although he does sort of tell a lie -- about being friends -- in that brief scene. Can't say his personality really come across there at all.<BR/>I either didn't see or can't remember the previous episodes in which Jonathan was a significant character. It might be interesting to look back and see if he had any 3-ish tendencies earlier in the series.Cindihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09578277122295278338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6962940693663816302.post-19186955898548245182007-12-20T13:19:00.000-08:002007-12-20T13:19:00.000-08:00One thing odd about the episode: after Jonathan an...One thing odd about the episode: after Jonathan and the monster were separated and he was back to normal Jonathan, he did not seem like a 3 anymore. I don't consider that odd within the world of Buffy; but it didn't make me think "Oh that Jonathan, he'll keep getting in trouble for these traits in later episodes."<BR/><BR/>Cindi, do you agree that he didn't act like a 3 anymore?Mary Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13373388995833775695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6962940693663816302.post-79303756607030758842007-12-20T12:29:00.000-08:002007-12-20T12:29:00.000-08:00Cool! Judith Searle is a writer who applies the En...Cool! Judith Searle is a writer who applies the Enneagram to storytelling. She has some interesting articles on her website. The best one can be found at www.judithsearle.com/3.html. It concerns the correlation of story genres with e-gram types. She gives examples and "rules" of the genre, as well as qualities of protagonists of various types.<BR/> There is also a software program -- Character Pro (www.storyscribe.com/character-pro-software.php) -- that helps writers use the Enneagram to develop characters.<BR/> And don't worry; I have looked at very little of the Buffy guide. I referenced it to jog my memory about what happened in the "Superstar" episode and happened to notice that Oz appears in an upcoming episode, but that's all I know.Cindihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09578277122295278338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6962940693663816302.post-60426441779827380722007-12-20T12:01:00.000-08:002007-12-20T12:01:00.000-08:00Wow, a great read! Extremely astute – for reasons...Wow, a great read! Extremely astute – for reasons you don’t even know about yet. <BR/><BR/>"…a 3's narcissism is fueled by feelings of worthlessness…"<BR/><BR/>"Unhealthy Threes are unable... to have empathy for others. Because they do not see other people as real or as having value without reference to themselves, others become merely providers of attention and admiration, what are called 'narcissistic suppliers', as objects to be used to aggrandize themselves."<BR/><BR/>This will get Jonathan in trouble again some day. <BR/><BR/>If nothing else, you’ve convinced me that understanding the Enneagram could help me write more interesting, complex, yet realistic characters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com